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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

No, because they disagree on what polins means.

I don't know what poling is

10:16 PM

Polins

10:16 PM

I thought it was some type of sport

It was an example word to make an argument

10:17 PM

I define polins as football, you define it as basketball, neither of us is right.

But fundamentally They're both sports right?

10:17 PM

Same thing, different perspective

entertain,me 😎

But fundamentally They're both sports right?

It doesnt matter, they dont need to be

In conclusion: Tulpas are not objectively a part of you | they are also not objectively not a part of you

i could have chosen completely different definitions.

entertain,me 😎

Same thing, different perspective

Now lets say you define "you" as your whole brain activity, and i define it as each and every one of your personalities/identities. Now i say that "a tulpa is not you". However you say that "a tulpa is you". Who is right? (edited)

berockly (TTG)

In conclusion: Tulpas are not objectively a part of you | they are also not objectively not a part of you

Tldr: Tulpa is merely just another perspective of self that lives in your head

10:18 PM

Which is exactly why it's "you"

entertain,me 😎

Tldr: Tulpa is merely just another perspective of self that lives in your head

Answer my question

Answer shibi

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Now lets say you define "you" as your whole brain activity, and i define it as each and every one of your personalities/identities. Now i say that "a tulpa is not you". However you say that "a tulpa is you". Who is right? (edited)

By my own opinion, I'd be right

10:19 PM

But you believe your right as well

10:19 PM

I work by logic

Lets make it even simpler for you in fact. Now lets say you define "owaba" (an arbitrary word i just created) as your whole brain activity, and i define it as each and every one of your personalities/identities. Now i say that "a tulpa is not owaba". However you say that "a tulpa is in fact owaba". Who is right?

Not scenerios

But the truth of it is you are both right to yourselves

entertain,me 😎

I work by logic

No you dont...

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

Lets make it even simpler for you in fact. Now lets say you define "owaba" (an arbitrary word i just created) as your whole brain activity, and i define it as each and every one of your personalities/identities. Now i say that "a tulpa is not owaba". However you say that "a tulpa is in fact owaba". Who is right?

You said the same thing with a different perspective

10:20 PM

Circles people

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

No you dont...

Explain how then

A tulpa IS you if you consider a tulpa within the bounds that you consider yourself A tulpa is not you if it is outside those bounds

You can't tell me I'm wrong and not know why I'm wrong

Forget for a second what you means

10:21 PM

Can you do an excercise with me?

That's the entire point of a general "argument"

10:21 PM

To convince

entertain,me 😎

Which is exactly why it's "you"

It is only you because of YOUR definition

Not to bash and just say your wrong

I’ve only seen a tiny part of this conversation and I’m already getting the idea that this Tree guy is liking talking to a brick wall

We arent saying your wrong btw, we are just saying your claim is not the objective truth

entertain,me 😎

That's the entire point of a general "argument"

To convince someone to switch definitions you dont prove "you are right" you prove "that your definition is more usefull" in this case, in tulpamancy your definition is both useless and completely non-intuitive.

With everything yall threw at me I tried my best to answer all of them and yet all you guys do it just tell me I'm wrong and bring up nonsensical scenerios

Godo, lets make an excercise, will you?

Error 🧶

I’ve only seen a tiny part of this conversation and I’m already getting the idea that this Tree guy is liking talking to a brick wall

I can have a better conversation with a wall

Another scenario

10:23 PM

Now you guys are just insulting me

10:23 PM

That doesn't make you right in the least bit

entertain,me 😎

Now you guys are just insulting me

Im not insulting you, im trying to make you understand that there is no objective definition of "you".

this is a server where we all talk to voices in our head and you wanted a conversation that didnt have nonsensical scenarios? That’s your flaw right there

It just makes you look ignorant

i never tried to be right...

entertain,me 😎

Now you guys are just insulting me

Try Not to take my insults seriously, im just frustrated

entertain,me 😎

It just makes you look ignorant

There has been no fact being discussed in this conversation so "ignorant" makes no sense.

10:24 PM

Will you be open to do this excercise?

Error 🧶

this is a server where we all talk to voices in our head and you wanted a conversation that didnt have nonsensical scenarios? That’s your flaw right there

Yea, I'm wrong there but it still doesn't give a reason to just blatantly say I'm dumb or am "talking to a brick wall"

10:24 PM

I gave my opinion

10:25 PM

I'm merely just defending it

10:25 PM

Telling me I'm wrong doesn't make me understand why you're right

No one said your opinion is wrong We are pointing out tha you appear to be treating your opinion as a fact

You are not deffending an opinion, you are imposing a definition.

berockly (TTG)

No one said your opinion is wrong We are pointing out tha you appear to be treating your opinion as a fact

You literally said I was worse than talking to a brick wall

10:26 PM

"I can have a better conversation with a wall"

10:26 PM

That doesn't show me why you're right

10:26 PM

Nor does it help me understand your points

entertain,me 😎

That doesn't show me why you're right

we are not trying to be right

10:26 PM

we have never been

Then why are you challenging my thoughts so much

10:27 PM

I'm merely answering questions

entertain,me 😎

Telling me I'm wrong doesn't make me understand why you're right

Let me put it to you like this: "a tulpa is you" is correct, because you can define yourself as your mind "A tulpa is not you" is correct because you can ALSO not define yourself as your entire mind "You" is subjective, therefore you cannot say it can only be the mind

Godo, are you open to a thought experiment?

I came in the server to simply understand

people can be incorrect while you are also as about as entertaining to speak to as a brick wall.

You are defending your opinion with circular logic

Then explain how

10:28 PM

And make me understand for the last ti.e

10:28 PM

Time

I came in the server to simply understand

@entertain,me 😎 - jump but yet you reject the information you came here to listen to and understand

Error 🧶

I came in the server to simply understand

@entertain,me 😎 - jump but yet you reject the information you came here to listen to and understand

I merely gave an opinion

10:28 PM

I never said I was right

10:28 PM

I simply said it didn't make sense in my book

10:28 PM

And wanted to understand

10:28 PM

Like bruh I have 3 of you talking to be at the same damn time

entertain,me 😎

I merely gave an opinion

It doesnt make sense because you cannot accept a different meaning to the word "you".

10:29 PM

I want to try and make you understand, will you try and listen to me for a second?

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

It doesnt make sense because you cannot accept a different meaning to the word "you".

That's an subjective opinion

10:29 PM

I am

10:29 PM

I'm just giving my thought afterwards

the problem is you are using wrong tool to understand you use logic that suits your view you don't ask what is people's experience. tulpamancy is an experiential practice, not logic

I think the problem is that we’ve presented our opinions about tulpamancy, which you’re trying to understand, and instead of hearing the points, you press for more information. Personally I’m not gonna argue either way because everyone has their opinions on the matter, but these people have given you the correct information regarding tulpamancy. Just my two cents

If I don't get information how am I supposed to understand

If you wanna understand just engage with the community ig

I merely gave an opinion

@entertain,me 😎 - jump sounds like you were trying to state facts about shit you admit you know fuck all about

That remotely makes no sense

Maybe we should start over

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Error 🧶

I merely gave an opinion

@entertain,me 😎 - jump sounds like you were trying to state facts about shit you admit you know fuck all about

I already said I gave "opinions" not facts

10:30 PM

Because once again this entire subject is based on subjectivity

entertain,me 😎

That remotely makes no sense

Im not being aggressive at all with you man but I do think you came into our community first yk

So what's this all about? GodofTrees is new here?

Why is why I'm asking for your perspectives

entertain,me 😎

If I don't get information how am I supposed to understand

We are not trying to prove that a tulpa is not you, we are saying that a tulpa is not necesarily you because there is no need to define that word exactly the way you do.

Ofc it’s subjective

10:31 PM

That’s the whole point

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

We are not trying to prove that a tulpa is not you, we are saying that a tulpa is not necesarily you because there is no need to define that word exactly the way you do.

I get that, but then I asked who exactly it's it

10:31 PM

*is

does it matter?